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January 24 Learn Chinese online - Ancient Chinese Military Civilization| 繁体 | 简体 | English | |Home|News Center|Cultural Olympics|City of Beijing|Sports Tradition|China Impression| Ancient Chinese Military Civilization ( 2008-08-13 ) Many historical materials indicate that gunpowder first appeared before theTang Dynasty(618-907). From 300 to 650AD several recipes were written about inflammable mixtures. Some historians date the invention of gunpowder at 850AD when a Taoist book warned of three specific elixir formulas as too dangerous to experiment. The military applications of gunpowder began in the Tang Dynasty. Explosive bombs filled with gunpowder and fired from catapults were used in wars. During the Song and Yuan dynasties (960-1368), the military applications of gunpowder became common and some other weapons like "fire cannon", "rocket", "missile" and "fireball" were introduced. In theYuan Dynasty(1279-1368), the method of powder-making was introduced to the Arab world and Europe, bringing a series of revolutions to weapon manufacturing, as well as to stratagem and tactics on the battlefield. From Italy the making of gunpowder soon spread to other European countries, and by the 1350s it had become an effective weapon on the battlefield. Crossbow The use of the bow and arrow for hunting and for war dates back to the Paleolithic period in Africa, Asia, and Europe. It was widely used in ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, the Americas, and Europe until the introduction ofgunpowder. However, over two thousand years ago in China, the crossbow was invented as an innovation to the basic longbow that extended the use of mechanical hand-held weapons throughout the world and which revolutionized warfare. A crossbow is a bow set horizontally on a stock. When the shooter releases a mechanism, the crossbow fires arrows or bolts propelled by the mechanical energy of previously taut bowstring. In ancient times, it could be more powerful than the ordinary bow and could fire multiple arrows, darts, or stones (nowadays the crossbow is definitely much stronger than the ordinary bow). Some designs were slower to fire than the longbow while others were small and useful for close combat. Chinese literary records (such as The Romance of Wu and Yue) place the invention of the crossbow in China during theWarring States Period(475-221BC) in the kingdom of Chu about 500 BC. However, many contemporary writers, such as for example Yang Hong and Zhu Fenghan, contend the that the often cited inventor improved upon a trigger mechanism, and that the crossbow may have existed from the seventh century BC or even much earlier. Some archeological evidence indicates that the crossbow was developed in China during the Copper Age around 2000 BC. In Europe, crossbow-type artillery pieces were known to the ancient Greeks and were used in 397 BC at Syracuse (modern-day Sicily). Carthaginians in the second century BCE used a hand-held crossbow called the scorpion, as it is told in Derry and Williams: A Short History of Technology that 2,000 of these weapons were handed over to the Romans after the fall of Carthage (present-day North African country of Tunisia). Later, with the decline of Rome, the crossbow fell into disuse before reappearing again in Europe in the tenth century. 1 2 3 4 5 Emblems More * Beijing Paralympics Emblem ============================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================ * Dancing Beijing -- Beijing 2008 Olympic Emblem ( 07-10 ) * Environmental Emblem of Beijing 2008 ( 07-10 ) * Emblem of the Beijing Olympic Torch Relay ( 07-10 ) * Emblem of the Beijing 2008 OYC ( 07-10 ) * Emblem of the Beijing Olympic Cultural Festival ( 07-10 ) News More * A letter to the future * Paralympic Games helps open more doors * Beijing bids goodbye * New star to drive London bus at closing ceremony * Empathy training Meet in Beijing More * Lebanese Fine Arts Come to Beijing * EU's Musical Youth Visits Beijing * Ringing in the Sounds of Okinawa * Helsinki Philharmonic Orchestra Premiered in China * Young Musicians, Timeless Symphony Olympic on Beijing's Axis Online Tour ============================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================ | About us | E-mail | Contact | Constructed by .cn Copyright 2003 Ministry of Culture, P.R.China. All rights reserved chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, http://www.hellomandarin.com , how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning January 13 Free Chinese Lesson - 1,800-Year-Old Military Relics on DisplaySubscribe to free Email Newsletter Exchange>Exhibition 1,800-Year-Old Military Relics on Display Royal swords from 1800 years ago, along with ancient bamboo shards inscribed with texts from The Art of War,are on show at Beijing's Military Museum. The sword was the personal weapon of the Yue Dynasty Emperor, Goujian, 1,800 years ago. One of the most arresting exhibits is this sword. It was the personal weapon of the Yue Dynasty Emperor, Goujian, 1,800 years ago. It remains a mystery how the rhombic patterns, the embedded color-glaze and the concentric circles were inscribed onto the sword. The question remains a subject of debate even today. Three other royal swords are on display. They represent the acme of ancient Chinese foundry. The swords are on loan from museums in east China's Zhejiang and Anhui provinces. This unassuming case houses the most prized exhibit. It's a military map from the Western Han Dynasty, dating back to 200 BC. It's the first time the map has been publicly displayed. The sword was the personal weapon of the Yue Dynasty Emperor, Goujian, 1,800 years ago. The 20 bamboo shards of the Art of War are stored in a protective liquid in glass tubes. The Art of War is a Chinese military treatise written by Sun Zi, during the 6th Century BC. Behind the glass, spectators are able to read the precise words of the Chinese classic. The bamboo shards were unearthed at Yinque Mountain more than 30 years ago. In all, there are 180 exhibits from 19 museums in the show. Half of those exhibits have never been shown to the public before. Editor: Feng Hui Email to Friends Save chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, http://www.hellomandarin.com , chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning January 12 Learn Mandarin online - Shandong folk art greets Olympics| 繁体 | 简体 | English | |Home|News Center|Cultural Olympics|City of Beijing|Sports Tradition|China Impression| Shandong folk art greets Olympics ( 2008-07-17 ) Olympic fever has spread to Gaomi city, the renowned birthplace of Shandong folk handicrafts. Local artists from this area of eastern China are sending best wishes to the Beijing Olympic Games through their latest works. Clay sculptor Li Xiuzhen has just finished 50 sets of clay figurines. Her subjects are the Olympic mascots, the five Fuwa. With her innovative designs and ingenious carving, those mascots are given some pure and even vital spirit. And the works depicting the Fuwa competing in sports, bring together the ideals of artistry and sports. The middle aged woman with simple and earnest face is Qi Xiuhua. She's a paper cutting artist who was born in Gaomi. She won her reputation at national and international cultural events for her exceptional technique. Qi started planing her Olympic greetings at the end of last year. Besides the five mascots, she also incorporated the 28 events of the Beijing Olympics into her creations. 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All rights reserved chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, http://www.hellomandarin.com , learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning January 09 Learning Mandarin - Kite Flying| 繁体 | 简体 | English | |Home|News Center|Cultural Olympics|City of Beijing|Sports Tradition|China Impression| Kite Flying ( 2008-07-08 ) Kite flying is one of the most popular traditional sports in China. Kite, called Feng Zheng in Chinese, originated in China and it has been praised as the forerunner of modern aircrafts. Its history can be traced back to more than 2000 years ago. Legend has it that, the first Chinese kites were made of wood and called Muyuan (wooden kites) by the famous architect and carpenter Lu Ban during the Spring and Autumn Period (770-476BC); after the invention of paper, kites began to be made of this new material called Zhiyuan (paper kites). Since the Han Dynasty (206BC-220AD), kites were used for measuring and messages transmitting. During the Tang Dynasty (618-907), people fixed on kites some bamboo strips which, when high in the air, would vibrate and ring in the breeze like a zither (a stringed instrument). Since then, the popular Chinese name for kites has become Feng Zheng (wind zither). Kite flying became a recreational game during the Song Dynasty (960-1278) and was spread to Europe in the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368). Gradually kite flying became a seasonal activity -- the main kite flying season occurs from Chinese New Year (usually in January and February) through Qingming (usually in March or April) because of favorable winds. The process of kite making has four steps: selecting, covering, painting and flying. For the frame, the right kind of bamboo must be selected. It should be thick and strong for a kite of large dimensions in order to stand the wind pressure. For miniature kites, on the other hand, thin bamboo strips are to be used to reduce the weight. Both sides of the crosspiece should be equal in width. The second step in the making of a kite is the covering of the frame. This is normally done with paper, sometimes with silk. Silk kites are more durable and generally of higher artistic value. The third step is painting. Painting of the kite may be done in either of two ways. For mass-produced kites, pre-printed paper is used to cover the frames. Custom-made kites are painted manually after covering. Many of the designs bear messages of good luck; a pine tree and a crane, for example, mean longevity, bats and peaches wish you good fortune and a long life, and so on. People nowadays make colorful kites in the shapes of animals, birds, butterflies, fishes and centipedes. Some animal-shaped kites are designed so they can roll their eyes and flutter their wings. Beijingers are most famous for their kite flying hobby. Nowadays, kite flying has become a popular recreation far and wide in China. In 1989, the International Kite League was established, headquartering Weifang in Shangdong Province. The well-known Weifang Kite Festival has become an annual feature in the country, drawing hundreds of participants each April from home and abroad. The kite is mainly, but not only, a plaything. It has contributed to science and production. In 1782, Benjamin Franklin, a noted American scientist and statesman, studied lightning and thunder in the sky with the help of a kite and then invented the lightning rod. 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The eight painters are Jin Nong, Huang Shen, Zheng Xie, Li Shan, Li Fangying, Wang Shishen, Gao Xiang and Luo Pin. Their paintings did not follow the old brushstroke conventions, making them look strange compared with other paintings of the time. In addition, these painters were proud and uncontrolled and had bold personalities; thus they were named the Eight Eccentric Painters. 1 2 3 4 5 Email to Friends Save chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, http://www.hellomandarin.com , how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning December 29 Free Chinese Lesson - Tibet Attractions, Tibetan Culture, Tibetan People, Tibet WeatherHome China Guide China Tours Yangtze Cruise Beijing Tour Tibet Tour Hotels Flights Testimonial Community Tibet Autonomous Region: Tibet Travel Guide Attractions Tibet Tour Package Religion Highlights Best Time to Visit Pictures Major Cities: Lhasa, Shigatse Lhasa Hotels (4 star) Attractions of Tibet : The Potala Palace, located in the center of Lhasa, with an area of 41 hectares, was listed as an UNESCO world cultural heritage site in 1994. >> more info Home : China Travel Guide : Tibet Travel Attractions: Font Size: - Large - Small Chamdo Region Chambaling Monastery The monastery, in Chamdo Town, was founded in 1444 by one of Tsong Khapa's disciples. Full Attractions List of Chamdo Lhasa Region Barkhor, a circular street at the center of Old Lhasa, is the oldest street in a very traditional city in Tibet. Pictures Drepung Monastery 8 kilometers (5 miles) west of Lhasa under Mt. Gambo Utse. It is the largest and richest monastery ever in Tibet. Pictures Jokhang Temple At the center of the old Lhasa. Jokhang Temple is the spiritual center of Tibet. Pictures Norbulingka (the Summer Palace) Norbulingka, meaning "Treasure Park", was first built in the 1740s. Pictures Potala Palace Pictures Sera Monastery One of the three largest monasteries of Gelugpa, sits at the foothills of Tatipu. Pictures Full Attractions List of Lhasa Nakchu Region Heavenly Lake Namtso Located near Damxung. It's the highest saltwater lake in the world and the second largest saltwater lake in China. Pictures Full Attractions List of Nakchu Ngari Region Mt. Kailash and Lake Manasarova Mt. Kailash and Lake Manasarova in the region of Purang are the "Sacred Mountain and Holy Lake" of the Buddhism, Hinduism and the indigenous religion-Bon. Pictures Ruins of Guge Kingdom The ruins lie on a hilltop near a river and cover 180,000 square meters. Pictures Full Attractions List of Nagari Nyingchi Region Originating from a glacier on the northern Himalayas, is the highest river on the earth. Pictures Full Attractions List of Nyingchi Shannan Region Samye Monastery Situated in Dranang, Samye Monastery was completed in 779 under the patron of Trisong Detsen. Pictures Yamdrok Yumtso Lake Yamdrok Yumtso (or Yamdrok-tso), one of the three holiest lakes in Tibet, lies at Nhagartse, located about 100 kilometers (62 miles) to the southwest of Lhasa. Pictures Full Attractions List of Shannan Shigatse Region Palkhor Monastery Lies about 230 kilometers (143 miles) south of Lhasa and 100 (62 miles) east of Shigatse at the foot of Dzong Hill. Built as a Tibetan monastery, its structural style is very unique. Pictures Tashilhunpo Monastery Lies 2 kilometer (1.2 miles) west of Shigatse city. The monastery is a very influential monastery in Tibet. Pictures Mt. Everest Lies at the border between China and Nepal. Mt. Everest, also known as Mt. Qomolangma, meaning Mother Goddess of the Universe in Tibetan, is the highest peak in the world. 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Page 3 of 15 < 12 3 4513 > » skylee - Two of my favourite poems are 蘇幕遮 by 范仲淹 (Fan Zhongyan) and 江城子 by 蘇軾 (Su Shi) - Quote: "蘇幕遮" 碧雲天，黃葉地。秋色連波，波上寒煙翠。山映斜陽天接水。芳草無情，更� ��斜陽外。 黯鄉魂，追旅思。夜夜除非，好夢留人睡。明月樓高休獨倚。酒入愁腸，化� ��相思淚。 Quote: "江城子" 十年生死兩茫茫。不思量，自難忘。千裡孤墳，無處話淒涼。 縱使相逢應不識，塵滿面，鬢如霜。 夜來幽夢忽還鄉。小軒窗，正梳妝。相顧無言，惟有淚千行。 料得年年腸斷處，明月夜，短松崗。 Do note that these are "詞" (lyrics), thus the uneven length of the phrases. They were popular during Song Dynasty. Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here roddy - I'm not going to split this topic up, but I think it might be wise for you to start new topics to introduce new poets / poems - it'll be easier to follow for new visitors, and keep things a little bit more tidy. I could be wrong though. I'm not the police or anything. Roddy skylee - What? You are not the police now? roddy - No, I decided to 干 more 事实. Now get on with the poetry stuff. markalexander100 - Li Bai's making more sense now- thanks! skylee - I've just seen a movie featuring Andy Lau, and this has somehow reminded me of his old movie 天若有情, and then Mao Zedong's poem "人民解放軍佔領南京" (what a name) - Quote: 鐘山風雨起蒼黃，百萬雄師過大江。虎距龍盤今勝昔，天翻地覆慨而慷。 宜將剩勇追窮寇，不可沽名學霸王。天若有情天亦老，人間正道是滄桑。 But I only like the last part of this poem, which is also the most famous. Another one of his popular poems is "沁園春" - Quote: 北國風光，千里冰封，萬里雪飄。望長城內外，惟餘莽莽；大河上下， 頓失滔滔。山舞銀蛇，原馳蠟象，欲與天公試比高。須晴日，看紅妝素裹，� ��外妖嬈。 江山如此多嬌，引無數英雄競折腰。惜秦皇漢武，略輸文采；唐宗宋祖，稍� ��風騷。一代天驕，成吉思漢，只識彎弓射大雕。俱往矣，數風流人物，還�� �今朝。 I don't think any ordinary/less confident man would dare to write such a poem, comparing oneself to Qin Shihuang, Han Wudi and Chinggis Khan, among others. garcia - 衰蘭送客咸陽道，天若有情天亦老 this is from li he!! skylee - Sure that is from 李賀. But the first one I quoted is from 毛澤東 (obviously he stole/copied/borrowed something from 李賀). nnt - Two verses from 黄巢 : 半肩弓劍憑天縱 一掉江山盡地維 Does anyone know if they are part of a poem or not ? The 全唐诗 contains only three poems from the Tang rebel, and these 2 verses are not included. garcia - 恨世間、情是何物，直教生死相許。天南地北雙飛客，老翅幾回寒暑。 歡樂趣。離別苦。就中更有痴兒女，君應有語， 渺萬裡層雲，千山暮雪，只影為誰去 how about this? i love this lyric very much. All times are GMT +8. The time now is 04:13 PM. chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, http://www.hellomandarin.com , learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning November 13 Learning Chinese - Characters vs phonetic writing systems -> Learning Chinese > Reading and Writing Characters vs phonetic writing systems Home New Posts Login: Pass: Log in or register for standard view and full access. Page 1 of 5 1 23 > » wix - ChouDoufu wrote this another thread but I am quoting it here to start a new topic, because it is an interesting and important issue. Let the debate begin... Quote: Originally Posted by ChouDoufu Yes, learning Chinese characters are difficult. That's the only thing I agree with though. There are a lot of people who have a belief that writing systems should be phonetic (I find it incredibly ironic that a native English speaker is praising the English phonetic system. English phonetics don't make a lot of sense either--under pronunciation rules in english "ghoti" can sound like "fish). Well, obviously if a language had a phonetic alphabet, it makes it easier to write and read. But to say that All languages need to be phonetic is just ridiculous. What makes Chinese appealing to so many people are the characters. Without the characters, Chinese would be destroying thousands of years of history. I don't think they should do that in order to appease people who want to learn the language. I've always found characters to be rewarding and intruiging. Yes it's difficult, but it's the difficulties that make things interesting. Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. 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This is why the Zhuyin Fuhao was first invented in the early 1900's and then later Hanyu Pinyin. roddy - Thanks for starting the thread wix, I hadn't had time to do it myself last night. Quote: readers immediately get the meaning in his or her head Sorry, but they don't. Nobody who hadn't studied Chinese (or any other simliar language could look at � and think fish - it's only through repeated association of the symbol and the idea that the meaning comes into your head. If readers immediately got the meaning in their head, we wouldn't need to learn Chinese - we would already know it. Roddy jwarriner - Kind of an interesting paradox here. Sure written language came after spoken language but the pictographic or ideographic nature of Chinese characters says to me that the effort to develop the written language wasn't based entirely on the spoken word but also attempted to pictorially represent the thing, concept, idea, etc. So once you know what a character means it seems to me possible that at least some of its meaning is taken in visually rather than aurally. Even with my limited knowledge of Chinese, there are times when I remember what a character means but not how to say it. And the use in China of certain characters in art of various forms suggests that much of its meaning is indeed transferred visually. There's a big difference between having a painting on the wall with DAO and one with � cheers, john Anonymous - Quote: Originally Posted by roddy Thanks for starting the thread wix, I hadn't had time to do it myself last night. Quote: readers immediately get the meaning in his or her head Sorry, but they don't. Nobody who hadn't studied Chinese (or any other simliar language could look at ? and think fish - it's only through repeated association of the symbol and the idea that the meaning comes into your head. If readers immediately got the meaning in their head, we wouldn't need to learn Chinese - we would already know it. Roddy Uhm, you're kidding right? Although I didn't specify but I assumed people would know that I was talking about people who know the characters. Of course the modern Hanzi won't look like anything but scribbles to those who don't know Chinese... sudasana - You can't say that characters have a natural association with the idea they represent: even the ideographic class of characters is opaque to anyone who hasn't learned their meaning. In both character and phonetic writing you have a sign which corresponds to an idea. With characters, you have a vast number of signs, the pronounciation of which is bascially arbitrary, and varies by dialaect and time period. With phonetic writing, you have a small set of signs that indicate sounds. The Chinese writing system is ineffecient in that it requires a lot of investment in order to master written communication; in the past this helped keep the literati in power, by maintaining a monopoly on the creation and spread of texts. Regardless of its artistic or historical value, the character system has no benefits over a phonetic system. It's only the massive inertia of the character system that keeps it alive; Vietnam and Korea were successful in developing phonetic systems to write their languages, whereas in the past they used Chinese characters. I was pretty excited about Chinese characters too until I read Asia's Orthographic Dilemma. If you strip away the exoticism that comes with a 'strange' method of writing, you may realize that, at best, hanzi solve many of the problems that they themselves cause. roddy - Quote: one advantage characters have over a phonetic writing system is that with characters, readers immediately get the meaning in his or her head This means readers of phonetic scripts don't immediately get the meaning in their head, which is simply not true - I can't believe reading � is any more immediate than reading fish. I'd also like to agree with what sudsana wrote - and thanks for saving me the bother of typing it all. Roddy confucius - Using the Chinese character for fish is a horrible example to make a point for phonetics. The key to learning new words in Chinese is understanding the importance of compound meanings. This allows you to guess at the meaning of new words by immediately analyzing the two characters it's comprised of. For example, if I just write "nankan" in pinyin phonetics then a Chinese guy won't have any clue what it means. Yet when he sees the characters for "nan" and "kan" then at least he knows the new word means "something that is difficult to look at" and concludes that those two characters together mean "ugly" roddy - Yeah, I agree that once you've learnt the characters Chinese isn't so difficult - and like the ugly example, Chinese vocabulary can be beautifully logical. It's learning the characters in the first place that's the problem - not just for us, but for generations of Chinese people. Roddy roddy - And . . .(forgot this) I've been told that it's impossible to create an adequate phonetic system for Chinese, as there are so few phonemes you have too many homonyns. Sounds like rubbish to me. A phonetic script is simply one that includes all the information given by the spoken language - if you have a spoken language that works, then you can have a phonetic system. You just need a consistent orthagraphy - whether you do this with tone marks above vowels, numbers after syllables, or whatever, it'll work. Sure, you might have problems with words in isolation - context won't help you - but how often do you have words in isolation? Roddy All times are GMT +8. 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Home New Posts Login: Pass: Log in or register for standard view and full access. Page 1 of 2 1 2 > roddy - There's a topic on here about getting foreign languages mixed up. Does anyone find they start making a mess of their own language after too long working in Chinese? I'm finding my English getting more and more Chinese like. I've been known to ask people to 'open a light' rather than turn on one, and frequently have to go back to my office because I've forgotten to 'close my computer' rather than turn it off or shut it down. I've also made reference recently to a floor comb (floorbrush) and electric tap (plug). These are perhaps most worrying as I don't think they're even correct in Chinese, never mind English. Roddy Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here ChouDoufu - I think that just happens naturally. If you don't speak your native language enough with native speakers then your level definitely drops. If you said those things in the UK or the states then people would look at you funny. After a while, when people asked me questions about English I'd just say, "I should know the answer to that, but I don't because my English isn't nearly as good as it used to be." Humani - I do that, without even knowing chinese... I mean I'll say 'you close the computer, or?' instead of 'did you switch off the computer?' 'you put the CD where?' instead of 'where did you put the CD?'even when i can't say that sentence in chinese... we have conversations like that all the time, english words and chinese grammar.. no-one knows both languages properly... (and this is in england). it's a real effort, to start speaking properly when i'm with my family. my mum keeps telling me i've said a strange sentence, and i don't even notice.. when i get around to learning these words in chinese, I hoping the word order will come natuarlly at least! Tsunku - I've been called out on my "Chinglish" more than once. Since I was living in China with a Chinese person (but mostly speaking English) it got really bad. I was supposed to be correcting my boyfriend's grammar and helping it out, but I was worse than he was. I still catch myself sometimes now that I'm back. What's worse is mixing Chinese into English. My friends probably think I'm trying to be ghetto with all the "nigga nigga." That was one that I *swore* to myself I would try not to import back to the states, but it pops out my mouth all the time anyhow. skylee - But this is what happens to us in HK all the time. We basically cannot say anything without mixing up Chinese and English. I have to make an effort to speak completely in Chinese. I recall back in univ, there was a teacher who was Taiwanese, educated in the US and taught in HK. He could not complete a sentence without using all three (mandarin, english and cantonese). confucius - I find it mildly annoying when I'm talking to native Chinese speakers and they somehow mix English words into their language despite the fact that suitable Chinese vocabulary exists. It's usually like this: "Nei ge Feizhou tongxue hen polite; wo xiang qing ta lai women de party." In my mind I always immediately translate whatever English words were just spoken into the proper Mandarin, sometimes I even interrupt them with the appropriate Chinese word. wix - Quote: Originally Posted by confucius I find it mildly annoying when I'm talking to native Chinese speakers and they somehow mix English words into their language despite the fact that suitable Chinese vocabulary exists. confucius, I agree. Foreigners in China are also guilty of doing the same while speaking English. e.g. Let's go out for a few pijiu's and so on. It is really only useful when you are using a word which is difficult to translate or has no equivalent in the other language. jekor - One girl I spoke with in Japan switched between Esperanto, English, and Japanese all within the same sentence. By the end of one day of speaking with her, not only was I exhausted, but I was doing the same thing myself. I wish I had a recording of the conversation we had while I was showing her how to transfer images from her digital camera to her computer... pazu - Quote: Originally Posted by confucius I find it mildly annoying when I'm talking to native Chinese speakers and they somehow mix English words into their language despite the fact that suitable Chinese vocabulary exists. It's usually like this: "Nei ge Feizhou tongxue hen polite; wo xiang qing ta lai women de party." In my mind I always immediately translate whatever English words were just spoken into the proper Mandarin, sometimes I even interrupt them with the appropriate Chinese word. Oh Confucius, for the first time I agree with you totally! This is something I hate too. I'm Chinese, but whenever Chinese talked to me with too much unnecessary interruption of English words, I just told them if they could speak Chinese well... it's just too annoying. Do you know the pianist Lang Lang? (I forgot his name in Chinese... LONG LONG in Cantonese anyway), he was interviewed on RTHK when he was in Hong Kong, and I wonder what he's really want to tell, e.g. "wo juede zheshi hen... IN'NOVATIVE ,,, hen you CHUANGYI, wo hai shi hen xihuan zhexie MUSIC,,, jiushi YINYUE! Okay, he didn't use this wording, but I'm just trying to do what he did in the interview. Oh what the hell he was talking about? Like going in an English lesson, tell you an English word, then come with a Chinese explanation. This is really some of the most annoying thing you can hear. But of course, I don't mind to put some English words into conversation, but they should be necessary or at least accepted by most people. Like CD, i-cable (a company name in Hong Kong, they have a Chinese name too), NOTEBOOK (computer), MOUSEEEE (computer), etc. skylee - The pianist's name is 郎朗. All times are GMT +8. 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Jill77 - Any idea about the meaning? thanks Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here skylee - 西 班 牙 It means "Spain". Very bad handwriting. All times are GMT +8. 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Luobot - ( 1 ) 摔倒 Shuāidǎo ( 2 ) 摔到 Shuāi dào ( or with the seemingly obligatory 了) 摔到了 Shuāi dàole Both are defined as “to fall” and the characters ( 倒 / 到 ) are close enough to have confused me for a while into thinking they were the same, until just now, when I realized there was a tone difference (dao3 vs. dao4) and looked more closely. So, does anyone know if there's a difference in usage between these two terms or are they interchangeable in sentences? Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here monto - ( 1 ) 摔倒 Shuāidǎo: to fall down, lying after 摔. 我看到有人跑过去把摔倒的老人扶了起来。 ( 2 ) 摔到 Shuāi dào ( or with the seemingly obligatory 了) 摔到了 Shuāi dàole a> 摔到(摔到了) = 摔着（摔着了）to be made to fall John slipped in night. Jack （in concern）: 你摔到了吗？John: 差一点。没摔到。 b> 摔到 to throw something onto..... 他把杯子摔到（了）地上 semantic nuance - Hmmm, I'll try to explain but mind you this is totally out of my instinct instead of any grammatical rules. My understanding is that: You can take 摔 alone kind of like transitive verb. For exmaple: 我摔了一跤. 摔倒 , kind of like phrasal verb (倒 like off). As for 摔到..., you may take 到 once again as an preposition to indicate where and what you fall on(i.e. on the ground, on knees, etc.) 我摔倒了. I fell off. 我摔倒在地上了. I fell off on the ground. 我摔到地上去了. I fell off on the ground. 我摔到膝蓋了. I fell off and hurt my knees. Hope it helps! foryou1437 - 摔倒 vs 摔到 or 摔到了 Remember the rule just a subject and a singel verb cannt make a sentene in China ! The three phrases all contain "fall/tumble" respectively. 倒 means "a status, over" , 到 means" to affect", 了 means" already" The first 摔倒 will be followed with a Where to complete a full sentence , such as ,摔倒 on the ground. 我摔倒在地上。I fall myeself on the ground the third 摔到了 = 摔倒， but needs no any more following word . 了 here equal to already. 我摔倒了。I fall myself . The second 摔到 contain two part, 摔 and 到. 到 means "to afftect". So 摔到 = fall and afftect , here = fall and hurt . 我摔到膝盖。I fall and hurt my knees. Luobot - Thanks, everyone, for the explanations. All times are GMT +8. 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FencerPT - Can anyone write me in Chinese characters the following names, belonging to the members of the Portuguese fencing team in the Beijing Olympics: - Joaquim Videira - Helder Alves - Debora Nogueira - Eduardo Pereira Thanks in advance! Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here FencerPT - I posted a thread, last week, asking for someone's help to translate into Chinese the names of the Portuguese fencers who'll be in the Olympics (Debora Nogueira, Eduardo Pereira, Joaquim Videira and Helder Alves). Although lots of people read it, no translation is available so far. Is it that difficult?! Thanks in advance. imron - It's not necessarily difficult, it's just imprecise. Have a read of these two threads to get an idea of why: http://www. /showthread.php?t=16630 http://www. /showthread.php?t=14087 There is also the problem that any names that people provide for you here, will be different from the official names that will presumably be chosen for you by the Beijing Olympic organising committee and/or the Chinese media. Lu - I also suspect that this is not the place to ask such things. If you need it for anything important (as suggested by the 'urgent'), you're best off asking some official source (some Chinese Olympic committee? Those fencers must have registered somewhere in China), not a public forum, however helpful people here are. If you are the official source, you should presumably find someone reliable used to this kind of work and pay them to give you a good transliteration. I hope you find it! renzhe - There are probably about 300 ways to transcribe each one of those names, and they are likely to be different from the official transcription used by the IOC. All times are GMT +8. 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Home New Posts Login: Pass: Log in or register for standard view and full access. dsrguru - I was always under the assumption that 多 is pronounced duō. I've been working through the FSI course (rather slowly), and in the fifth and sixth units of the BIO module, 多大 is taught as duódà and 多久 as duójiǔ. FSI does that kind of thing often (e.g. teaching 中國人 as Zhōngguorén instead of Zhōngguórén and 七個 (likewise for 八個) as qíge instead of qīge or qīgè) to make the pronunciation more accurate, but I have never seen 多 taught as duó in my life. Can anyone, perhaps a native speaker, verify this? Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here necroflux - Not a native speaker but I can attest to the fact that everywhere in Taiwan and China I've been it's definitely pronounced duo1. If you have questions like this on tones you can check an actual Chinese dictionary online (Chinese to Chinese): http://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/cgi-b...op=f&imgFont=1 That particular dictionary is from Taiwan, tones may change for some words but this one should be as consistent as they get from region to region. HashiriKata - @dsrguru: I'm not a native speaker but your observation above is all correct, and it is quite common for 多大 to be pronounced as duódà and 多久 as duójiǔ. The only thing I'd say is that if you would like to imitate, just imitate the combinations you've actually heard (ie, not yourself create new ones). (干吗 is also pronounced as gan4ma2, by the way) skylee - Some of the posts in this thread are relevant -> http://www. /showthread.php?t=22937 Also take a look at the dictionary of the Taiwan Ministry of Education (the same dictionary quoted by necroflux) - Quote: 多 部首 夕 部首外筆畫 3 總筆畫 6 注音一式 ㄉㄨㄛˊ 通用拼音 duó 注音二式 duó 副 何等、如何。表疑問、感嘆的語氣。如：「多好」、「多高」、「帶大一個� ��子是多麼不容易啊！」 dsrguru - Thanks guys. necroflux - My Chinese isn't good enough at present to use that dictionary (and I never bothered to learn bopomofo), but I'm bookmarking it for the future. HashiriKata - I'm glad to hear that. I think I'll pronounce 多 as duó in the specific combinations in which FSI teaches it as duó, and I'll pronounce it as duō everywhere else. skylee - I remember glancing through that thread about a month ago, but I didn't notice your post and muyongshi's reply. Thanks. Before posting this thread, I had searched with Google using site: rather than with this site's search feature (I got the idea from you), but that thread didn't come up. I think I searched for 多 duó rather than 多 duo2. Note to self: remember to search for pinyin both with tone marks and with numbers. When did that dictionary say to pronounce 多 as duó? I tried using Google Translator to get a very general idea but it came out even worse than normal: Quote: Xi radical and more radical, three strokes of six strokes Pronunciation of a building ㄨ ㄛ ˊ Tongyong Pinyin duó Phonetic two-duó Deputy How, how. Table doubt, laments the tone. Such as: "good" and "high" and "brought up a child how Burongyia!" skylee - Quote: Originally Posted by dsrguru When did that dictionary say to pronounce 多 as duó? The dictionary says it is used as an adverb (which is what the character "副" means) and pronounced duó in exclamation and to express doubt. Examples are "How nice!" ("多好"), "How hard it is to bring up a child!" ("帶大一個孩子是多麼不容易啊！") , etc. dsrguru - Okay, thanks. That still leaves question phrases like 多大, 多久, and 多少. I'm guessing based on necroflux's and HashiriKata's posts that they can be pronounced either way, but I'm a little wary of this. I think I'll follow FSI (duó) until native speakers tell me it sounds weird. zhxlier - Native speaker here. Born and raised in Beijing, so I can only speak of the situation in Beijing. My impression: when used as an adverb, 多 can be pronounced as both duo1 and duo2. When pronounced duo1, it sounds more formal and neutral. When pronounced duo2, it sounds more casual and/or emotional. Example, if I'm shopping, I'd ask "多(duo1) 少钱？“ (How much?) If I learned that someone bought this 4-bedroom luxury house, I'd say "那得花多(duo2)少钱啊！" (Imagine HOW MUCH that would cost!) But even in these context, duo1 and duo2 are still exchangeable. Of course, when used an an adjective, 多 is always pronounced duo1 (as in 许多). dsrguru - zhxlier, thank you very much. All times are GMT +8. The time now is 06:58 PM. chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, http://www.hellomandarin.com , chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning September 06 Free Chinese Lesson - Your Accommodation in China - Page 6 -> Studying, Working and Living in China > Living in China Your Accommodation in China Home New Posts Login: Pass: Log in or register for standard view and full access. Page 6 of 6 First < 45 6 venture160 - Sure, but its not that realistic if you work in chengdu to commute an hour everyday.... Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here magores - Type of accomodation: Rented apartment. City/Area: Beijing, on Xidawang Lu, near Shuangjing Carrefour Description: -1 bedroom, good sized bathroom, smallish kitchen -living room is big enough for a dining area near the balcony -windows face East, so I get morning sun -26th floor of 26 -new apt complex, gated, security, etc Rent: 3300/mo paid quarterly. Utilities (except for heating) are extra. 1-year lease. Found via: Agent (long story I described in this post: http://www. /showthread.php?t=20338) Came with: All new matching furniture sets, appliances except microwave (was a wedding gift, landlords want to take with them.) Landlord / Building management: Landlords are a couple that recently had a baby. They are moving to new place for a couple/few years, will want to move back eventually. The wife is very nice. Speaks excellent English, as does her Physics professor father. When found: October 2007 (I added the "when found" because I think that might be helpful for people considering that the current rental/property market in Beijing is crazy compared to previously.) muyongshi - I moved back in December and absolutely love my new place: 110 sq. meters+balcony; 2 Bedroom, 2 Bath, 1 Gigantic Living room, and a dining room (kitchen's a given) Price: 400 RMB a month Simply finished and pretty bare, no furniture just the sinks, toilets, a few counters, stove and water heater Rented initially for a year but will probably give 2 years next time (landlord doesn't want to be renting for short periods of time and I don't mind longer contracts, good bargaining chip) Found it by walking into the complex and looking at a piece of paper stuck on the wall The money though that I saved on rent allowed me to buy all the furniture I need and in the next year will allow me to buy some NICE stuff. Also it is roomier than my old place and after I slapped a fresh coat of paint on the main areas, fixed up those things, good cleaning, put pictures up it was good to go! roddy - Anyone else moved into a new place for the new semester? Must be a few out there . . . mr.stinky - ok, i'll bite.... moved into a new place last november, in a recent (15 years?) non-high rise complex. 300m to bus stop, with four lines running to school. bus ride is 4 stops or ~10 minutes. otherwise 8 minutes by bicycle door-to-door. loads of small restaurants and food stalls nearby, 5-minute walk to carrefour. apartment is about 70 meters, huge living room with attached very clean kitchen. two bedrooms with wood floors, small sunroom off the bedroom. loads of cabinets in kitchen and bedrooms. bathroom has tub and toilet, although i had to install a water heater. 4th floor (52 steps), away from traffic noise in center of complex. rent is 700/month unfurnished, utilities extra. paid nine months in advance (as i think i'll be moving someplace warmer then). found via local agent's signboard. skylee - I've just moved to another apartment in the same development. The place is of the same size and layout of my previous one but the rent is almost doubled. City - Hong Kong Type of accommodation - Rented apartment Description - 556 sq ft, unfurnished, well-maintained 20 year old building in a private housing estate of 50 multi-storey buildings, some of which are on the waterfront (mine faces the hills). 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen. Rent - HKD13,000 for 1st year, HKD14,000 for 2nd year, paid in cheques monthly (I gave 12 pre-dated cheques to the landlord one year in advance). Rent exclusive of utility charges. 2-month security deposit. Two-year lease. Location - Heng Fa Chuen, with a metro station just downstairs, very convenient yet quiet. Found via - real estate agency. Came with - 3 air-conditioners, many cupboards/wardrobes, curtains, gas stoves. Here are some photos. You can see I am still unpacking (actually I've stopped unpacking and have no idea how to deal with those six solidly packed boxes of books .......) cdn_in_bj - Quote: Originally Posted by skylee I've just moved to another apartment in the same development. The place is of the same size and layout of my previous one but the rent is almost doubled. Why is the rent double that of your previous place? Is there currently a shortage of housing in HK? Quote: Description - 556 sq ft, unfurnished, well-maintained 20 year old building in a private housing estate of 50 multi-storey buildings, some of which are on the waterfront (mine faces the hills). 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen. I take it that 556 sq ft (~55 sq m) is the actual sq footage, given that there's 2 bedrooms... Quote: Rent - HKD13,000 for 1st year, HKD14,000 for 2nd year, paid in cheques monthly (I gave 12 pre-dated cheques to the landlord one year in advance). Rent exclusive of utility charges. 2-month security deposit. Two-year lease. Is that HKD 14k for the entire year, or per month? I'm guessing it's per month, as it would seem to be too low the entire year, but still if it's monthly then that is a lot higher than I was expecting even for HK! Also, I find it interesting that a rent increase has already been included in the lease - it seems rather unfair to the tenant. Though it's nice that you can use pre-dated cheques - this is one area where the mainland is still really behind. Quote: Location - Heng Fa Chuen, with a metro station just downstairs, very convenient yet quiet. For those of us that aren't too familiar with HK, is this considered to be a good middle-class type of area? I'm just curious - do you have any idea what this apartment would cost to purchase? Quote: Here are some photos. You can see I am still unpacking (actually I've stopped unpacking and have no idea how to deal with those six solidly packed boxes of books .......) Thanks for sharing those. I see what appears to be a patterend ceiling in the first photo of your living room - did they wallpaper the ceiling?? Also, your fridge looks really short - is that the standard size over there? As for your books, I suggest you find a corner to stack those boxes. skylee - Hi, cdn_in_bj. Re your questions, the rent is doubled because the property prices in HK are rising. I started the lease of my previous apartment in 2003 when the economy was pretty bad so actually the rent back then was very low. 556 sq. ft is the gross area, not actual. But the place is pretty big for me. Don't judge the size of a HK apartment on a mainland scale ... The rent is monthly rent. I don't think the rent increase is unfair, as the landlord has to commit to a two-year lease. Considering that the whole lease is only worth $330K, I think it is a good bargain to secure a two-year lease (assuming rising property prices). Otherwise (more flexible, cheaper rent) the landlord might kick me out after say 12 months and I would have to move again. Heng Fa Chuen is on HK island with its own metro station. I think it is a good choice for the middle-class. And I like it as I am a HK islander and the place is quiet with very few outsiders (if you don't live here there are not many reasons to come). Some people who need to travel after midnight, however, find it inconvenient as the metro closes at about 1:00 am. There are many such big private developments throughout HK. Tai Koo Shing, for example, which is closer to Central and also has its own metro station, is like 40 years old but is still very expensive. To buy a flat like this here you will need to spend about HKD 3.3 million (transaction date 3 April 2008 ) (source). And yes the ceilings are wallpapered. The fridge is the smallest and cheapest (but with a freezer) that I could find. I used to have a bigger one. But since the fridge is just for water and beer I got a smaller one. As for the books, I've managed to push the boxes to a corner in the spare room (too heavy for me to stack them up though). cdn_in_bj - Quote: 556 sq. ft is the gross area, not actual. But the place is pretty big for me. Don't judge the size of a HK apartment on a mainland scale ... Ok, I won't compare HK to the mainland; I've already stopped comparing the mainland to North America Quote: To buy a flat like this here you will need to spend about HKD 3.3 million (transaction date 3 April 2008 ) (source). That works out to be HKD 5924/sq ft or HKD 65k/sq m. Wow. It seems that HK real estate is on a tear and so are rents! Anyways, thanks for answering my questions! cdn_in_bj - Here's my way-overdue contribution to this thread: Accomodation 1: Date: Feb 07 - Nov 07 Type of accomodation: Rented apartment Description: 1 bedroom (separate, not studio), 55m2, new building (I was the first tenant of this unit). Had both north and south facing windows, which was a bit unusual for a small unit. Rent: 1800Y a month, paid quarterly. Public heating and property management fee included, electricity and gas extra. Location: Outside of west 4th ring, just west of Yuquan Rd and Chang An. 15 minutes walk from subway. Found via: Local housing agent - I had pretty much settled on the apartment complex, and went to the various agencies in the area to find units for rent. I paid their fee of 75% of one month's rent (was originally 100%, but I negotiated down). Lease: Signed for 1 year, but my landlords terminated the lease early as they decided to sell the unit. As per our contract, they paid me an early-termination penalty of one month's rent and returned my initial deposit. Came with: Not much - new sofa (low-quality), second-hand TV, fridge, and washer. 2 AC units but both without heating function. Bed came with dirty Chinese-style "mattress" (1" padded board) - I bought my own mattress. I also installed curtains over the bedroom windows and a shower curtain in the bathroom. Later on I also eventually purchased a microwave oven, and a coffee table and floor lamp from Ikea. Landlord / Building management: Landlords lived in the same complex, a couple of buildings over. It was obvious that this was their first time renting, but they were nice. The building management was responsive the few times I needed to call them. All gates to the complex had tight security (a good thing), and I felt safe living here. Notes: My landlords knew from the start they'd be renting this unit out, so they spent the least amount of money possible renovating and furnishing it. But I was somewhat in a hurry to find a place and the price was right (other better-furnished units in the same complex were going for around 2200Y). Accomodation 2: Date: Nov 07 - present Type of accomodation: Rented apartment Description: 1 bedroom (separate, not studio), 57m2, east facing unit. Building is 5 or 6 years old but this was and still is considered to be one of the better complexes in the area. Rent: 2500Y a month, paid quarterly. Property management fee included, electricity and gas extra. No public heating in this building - units have gas furnaces for the heating and hot water. So I'm paying for heat, but the good thing is that I can have heat whenever I want. Location: XuanWu district, near GuangAnMen bridge. Not sure how far of a walk it is to the nearest subway. Found via: Local housing agent - again, I had settled on the apartment complex, and went to the various agencies in the area to find units for rent. I paid their fee of 100% of one month's rent. This time I didn't directly negotiate the agency fee - instead, I was able to negotiate the monthly rent with my landlord, which had the effect of reducing the fee. Lease: Signed for 6 months. Came with: Everything I need, even an extra mattress (so a total of 3 mattresses, including the one I had purchased while staying at the 1st apartment!), plenty of built-in shelving and storage space. This is quite a contrast to the 1st place. The only downside is that the TV is tiny, but I don't watch a lot of TV/movies these days so no biggie. Landlord / Building management: Landlord lives out east, but is very easy to get a hold of and was responsive to issues relating to my initial move-in. No complaints with the building management and again security is very good, which is especially important as this complex isn't in the best area like I mentioned above. Notes: This is the type of place that I could see myself living in long-term. Well, maybe if it were a bit bigger. The complex is well-managed and strictly guarded. The building, while not that old by western standards, has actually held-up pretty well by Chinese standards. The main giveaway that this isn't a newer building is that I can sometimes hear noise from the units above and beside me in the mornings. I had looked at a few units in another complex nearby which weren't as strictly with the security - there were lots of written and posted ads in the hallways of the buildings, they didn't leave a safe impression at all. All times are GMT +8. The time now is 05:19 PM. chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, http://www.hellomandarin.com , how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning September 05 HSK - BNU tuition and term question -> Studying, Working and Living in China > Universities and Schools > Studying Chinese in Beijing BNU tuition and term question Home New Posts Login: Pass: Log in or register for standard view and full access. cui ruide - Hey folks, I have a couple of questions about the BNU program... 1. Does tuition include housing and/or food? 2. Regarding short-term study (3, 4, 5 weeks, etc.)...can you start this any time of the year, or is still within the normal time frame of a normal semester? 3. What are the dates of the normal semesters? Thanks. Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here adrianlondon - 1. No, accommodation is separate and there's a choice depending on what type of luxury/sharing you want. Food is cheap in the student canteens, about 4y a dish. 2. I didn't know BNU did short term courses apart from the Summer course. 3. No idea; their website is notoriously rubbish. Which semester were you interested in? monto - Quote: 3. What are the dates of the normal semesters? Chinese educational system is of two semesters in a year, one in the Spring (February) and another in the Autumn ( Often 1st September). It slightly differs from one school/uni to another (around a week or so). extrapages - cui ruide, i dont know anyone who has joined in the middle of the semester and only stayed short term. everyone began and ended following the semester schedule. re: the summer program, i found out, is not open to individuals - but only to students that come to bnu through a partner university from overseas (SOAS, EAP, etc.). the semesters at bnu this past year: FALL SEMESTER 2007 entrance test: sept 4 first day of class: sept 10 mid terms: nov 15,16 last day of class/finals: jan 14,15 --- SPRING SEMESTER 2008 entrance test: feb 20 first day of class: feb 25 mid terms: april 17-18 last day of class/finals: june 9-10 cui ruide - Thanks guys, I'm just trying to get a general idea. I'm thinking about getting back over there winter 08-09/spring-09 and feel like I should get back in the classroom to polish what will by then be my rusty Chinese before looking for some work. Originally I was thinking a couple of weeks (maybe a short, intensive month), but it seems a semester is really economical--just a matter if I want to spend the time. Still a ways off though, so I have time to consider. ;p All times are GMT +8. 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Nork02 - Hi all! can I use 早 instead 早上好?....if so, can I use them in the same situation/context? Thanks Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here monto - Exactly the way you say "Morning" instead of "Good morning". dsrguru - monto's analogy is accurate. Just note that some speakers, perhaps Taiwanese or southern Mainlanders, use 早安 (zǎo ān) instead of 早上好. I said 早上好 to a Taiwanese friend, and he was like "What the hell? Morning good?" So I tend to use 早安 or just a plain old 你好 to be safe. BLCUP - 早is not very formal, but it's short, so people use it in daily life especially in casual life. 早上好 is a formal use, you can use it in formal occation or meet one people in the morning for the first time. Nork02 - Thank you! All times are GMT +8. The time now is 07:18 PM. chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, http://www.hellomandarin.com , learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning August 29 HSK - speakgoodchinese - Page 7 -> Learning Chinese > Speaking and Listening speakgoodchinese Home New Posts Login: Pass: Log in or register for standard view and full access. Page 7 of 7 First < 56 7 Radial - Well... I have a new version of the Windows error... I have been trying to run the program on a Chinese version of Windows XP SP2... when I try to start the program... all I get is a black dos window and then a error message saying that it is going to close. I tried to do the workaround, but I cannot identify what is the option... and cannot find anything indicating a US version of unicode. Any other suggestions about what to do? Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here Skinkie - It would be great if you posted the error message in the black box. If the sensitive bug in GTK+ is fixed I'll compile a new binary anyway. Radial - Managed to get the program up and running. Had to change the country and language setting in the control panel. I have one suggestion... maybe you can also provide for showing the character. darcey - I just found this, and wanted to say that I've downloaded it and it's working with minimal issue on a PC running Windows Vista. anchorman - I've tried installing SGC on the latest Debian but the process tells me that I need libzip.so.1. Libzip.so.1 isn't available in any of the Debian repositories. I could try and install a rpm of it, but I've been told that could get nasty. If anyone has a solution... Thanks. All times are GMT +8. The time now is 06:58 PM. chinese language, learning chinese china, HSK, learn chinese writing, http://www.hellomandarin.com , learn chinese characters, HSK Exam, chinese school, teach chinese, chinese schools, learn mandarin, learning mandarin, learning chinese, study in chinese, learn chinese abroad, speak chinese, chinese studies, how to learn chinese, learn chinese china, learn chinese online, chinese language online, learn chinese in china, study chinese online, chinese language program, chinese language school, chinese language schools, chinese speaking, learn chinese, learn mandarin online, learn to write chinese, beijing chinese language school, chinese language china, chinese language classes, chinese language courses, chinese language learning August 26 Chinese Mandarin - TOEFL Flashcards? - For Learning English in Chinese -> Extras > Other cultures and language TOEFL Flashcards? - For Learning English in Chinese Home New Posts Login: Pass: Log in or register for standard view and full access. ABCinChina - Hello, I've tried to search Google for TOEFL flashcards much like the HSK flashcards that I'm currently studying with the Mnemosyne software, but for English words with the explanations in Chinese. This is for my girlfriend who is a China girl. I would teach her English myself, but my work keeps me busy so I would like her to study on her free time when I'm at work. Does anyone know if theres a good place to download these or if they exist? I'd really appreciate it. Pleco Software Learn Chinese with our Dictionaries for Palm and Pocket PC. Learn Chinese in China Learn to speak Chinese 1MonthChinese.com -Mandarin School in China. Chinese Textbooks Wide range, cheap, varied languages. Also Chinese cartoons, toys, gifts. Study Chinese in Beijing Affordable Mandarin language courses at BLCU with ChinaUnipath.com. HNHSoft Dictionary Learn Chinese on Smartphone and PDA with real person's voice. XueXueXue IQChinese Get beyond the plateau.Take your Mandarin to a new level. Chinese in Lijiang Short term Chinese study in a beautiful town with a focus on daily life. MandarinTube Chinese Access to current everyday Chinese language and culture, 24/7. Learn Chinese Homestay Chinese course, cultural activities & volunteer events in China. Learn Chinese Online 1-on-1 instant tutoring, diverse courses, native teachers. FREE trial now! Nihao Chinese Progam Free one-on-one Chinese lesson. Win 5-years of free lessons now! About Ads (and how to hide them) -- Your message here renzhe - I don't know if there are such flashcards for TOEFL, or whether TOEFL has a standard list of vocabulary, like the HSK does. I know, however, that there are word lists for the GRE Verbal floating around China (the infamous red book), so there could be some for TOEFL too. I would recommend asking university students, especially the ones who are interested in studying abroad. If there is something, they'll know. ABCinChina - Thanks for the info. 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