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Liu pulls out of men's 110m hurdles first round

( 2008-08-19 )

Liu Xiang of China warms up before the start of his 110m hurdles heat of the athletics competition in the National Stadium at the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games August 18, 2008. Liu failed to start his 110 metres hurdles first-round heat on Monday.

China's Xiang Liu retires from the first round of the men's 110m hurdles at the "Bird's Nest" National Stadium during the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games on August 18, 2008.

Liu Xiang of China grimaces in pain during his warm-up before the start of his 110m hurdles heat of the athletics competition in the National Stadium at the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games August 18, 2008.

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Folk art lights up the Beijing Olympics

( 2008-08-05 )

On August 2, on the second floor of building A in the 2008 International Media Center, 10 Chinese folk artists brought their handicrafts to an exhibition hall. Their unique Chinese folk art show attracted many Chinese and foreign reporters alike.

One of the folk artists, Sun Lingmin, white-haired with age, undoubtedly received the most attention from foreign reporters. His kites, made in all different sizes, were displayed on the 34 square meter stage. Sun Lingmin patiently explained that "best wishes and blessings" are a longstanding
Chinese tradition, and kite designs are themed on folk sayings, folk tales, and historical quotes. Through metaphors, double meanings, symbolism, and onomatopoeia, they express people's wish for a good life.

Sun Lingmin explained the kites as he gave demonstrations. "The process of making kites is very complicated. It includes cutting and binding bamboo, applying adhesive, putting on a protective coat, dyeing it, and more. Chinese culture is so broad and deep that it is hard for one to absorb it all."
A foreign journalist who was taking a photo gave a sigh.

An energetic and outgoing woman, Liu Ren was surrounded by reporters as she displayed her paper cuttings. Liu Yang, a volunteer from Capital Normal University, became Liu Ren's new "disciple" that day. "How is it learning with a master " a reporter asked. Liu Yang replied in embarrassment, "It
looks easy, but it's really hard to do! The only thing I can make is an apple."

Wearing a pink Chinese style top, Liu Ren warmly invited every reporter looking at her paper cuttings to visit her paper-cut museum in a hutong near Xinwenhua Jie at Xidan. "This is Beijing's first privately run paper-cut museum," she said proudly. In the past 9 years, this unique museum has
already received visitors from all over China and more than 30 countries and regions. It has become a window displaying the Chinese folk art of paper cutting. Liu Ren has already tried to use paper-cuts to depict athletic competitions at the 29th Olympic Games in Beijing. She hopes that through
the Olympics, more people from other countries will come to appreciate Chinese folk art.

Yu Guangjun uses magnolias, cicada shells, and other materials to create monkeys, earning him round after round of applause from his audience. He explained the history of his craft: "These monkeys were made by a clerk working in an herbal medicine shop in Beijing, but he didn't intend them to be
anything special. When the shopkeeper saw, he thought the clerk's creations were very intriguing, and moreover they combined four types of Chinese medicine, so he sold them as products. Thus, these monkeys became a type of folk art tradition." They were popular toys in the history of old Beijing,
but they almost disappeared for a considerable period of time. "We are explaining this craft here so that it will not be buried under modern day toys that flash and make sounds," Yu Guangjun said.

One of Yu's creations called "It's the New Year!" drew much attention. In it, ten monkeys are carrying water and firewood or cleaning the house, preparing to celebrate the New Year.

"How long does it take to make one of these " a journalist from Turkey asked in amazement.

"One month," Yu Guangjun replied.

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Craftworks of Beijing

( 2008-07-10 )

Because it was the ancient cultural city of China, there are many consummate skills handed down from generation to generation, such as cloisonné, ivory carving and jade carving. These craftworks distinguished by their dense eastern style are the best choice of souvenir for the visitors. You can
pick up one or two of them for yourself or friends from antique markets or feature shops in Beijing.

Artificial Flower

The Artificial Flower, or Juan Hua in Chinese, has been a traditional handicraft since ancient times. As early as the Tang Dynasty (618-907), women began to wear artificial flowers on their hair as decoration. And the middle of Qing Dynasty (1644-1911) was a booming time for this folk art. These
vivid flowers are made from all kinds of colorful silks by skilled craftsmen. As a result of thousands of years' development, there are now over 2,000 kinds of artificial flowers, including the fireproof garland mounted on a candleholder and the waterproof flower branch. As well as artificial
flowers, the craftsmen can make dolls from silk. The colorful dolls with a variety of designs are also very popular.

Cloisonne

Cloisonne, or Jing Tai Lan in Chinese, which is also known as enamel is a kind of copper craftwork. It first appeared in Beijing in the Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368) and prevailed during the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644). Cloisonne is a perfect combination of copper and porcelain. It is made by using copper
as the basal material with brass wires fixed to the body of the copper in some designs. Then blue glaze is applied to the brass wire. After a series of complex procedures, such as burning, burnishing and gilding, the cloisonne is done. This process can be used to make articles such as headgears,
lamps, smoking sets and other vessels of all shapes and sizes.

Dough Figurine

Dough Figurine, or Mian Ren in Chinese, is a simple folk handicraft demonstrating high artistic quality. It has a history over 1,340 years. The vivid figurine is made by skilled craftsmen from sticky rice dough mixed with pigments, honey and olefin. After cutting, slashing, pinching and twisting
the dough, a lifelike child, beautiful girl or other creations will come out in the twinkling of an eye. You can witness the craftsmen making dough figurines along the exhibition streets in Beijing and you will be astonished by their excellent skills.

Ivory Carving

Ivory Carving, or Ya Diao in Chinese, in Beijing enjoys a history of as many as 3,000 years. The excellent techniques and well-developed imagination of the skilled craftsmen give the ivory a new life with their knives. It is an exquisite and delicate craftwork that is loved by people at the first
sight. In ancient times, the Chinese emperors regarded the ivory carving as a royal tribute. Because ivory is now in short supply and there are fewer young craftsmen, ivory carving may soon be a lost art.

Jade

Jade has been considered the king of the precious stones by Chinese for over 5,000 years. It is regarded as an auspicious thing standing for goodliness, heavenliness and preciousness. In ancient times, people wore jade to show their status and position on society. There are lots of craftsmen with
a high level of skill in Jade Carving. The jade vase, figurine, bird, animals and flowers are so well-made that they appear lifelike.

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Silk Road

( 2008-07-09 )

The Silk Road winds its way through numerous lands and deserts, colorfully stretching its way through the civilizations of Asia, Europe and Africa. It was through the Silk Road that the four great ancient Chinese inventions of papermaking, gunpowder, the compass and printing were diffused across
the world. Likewise, breathtakingly splendid silk production, Chinese tea and porcelain were also spread throughout the globe. The exchanges of material culture along went both ways, with Europe also exporting a wide range of goods and plants to meet the demands of the Chinese market.

The Origins of the Silk Road

The German geographer F. Von Richtofen coined the term “Silk Road” in 1877. It refers to the major trade route linking China with Southwestern and Central Asia and India. Starting during the Han Dynasty (202 BC-220 AD), this route was used to transport a variety of trade goods, of which silk
was the most important. The Silk Road originates in the Chinese interior, passes through Northwestern China, and continues west across Asia. Providing links with ancient overland routes to Africa and Europe, the Silk Road paved the way for extensive political, economic, and cultural exchanges
among widely separated regions and ethnic groups.

China was the first country in the ancient world to cultivate the mulberry plant, raise silkworms, and produce silk items. To the present day, silk remains one of China's greatest offerings to the peoples of the world, surpassing every other Chinese product in the scope of its distribution.
Although trade in various other Chinese products was concentrated along roads known the "Jade Road," "Gem Road," "Buddhist Road," and "Porcelain Road," in actuality these routes represented only individual segments of the Silk Road. In the end, this great artery of commerce and exchange will
always be known for its most important product, silk.

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Weightlifting

( 2008-07-08 )

Weightlifting is an ancient sport in China. People in ancient times paid great attention to the exercise of strength. A great variety of contests of strength have been recorded in Chinese history books. As early as the Spring and Autumn and the Warring States periods (770 -221 BC), two forms of
weightlifting contest called "qiao guan" and "kang ding or ju ding" had taken shape.

"Qiao guan" was a kind of weightlifting in which "guan," a heavy door bar, was lifted by a man grasping it by one end with a single hand. "Qiao guan" remained in vogue up till the Tang Dynasty (618 -907), but it was then no longer a contest of strength among imperial court warriors. Instead, it
became a subject of cadet examinations, and door bars were replaced by weights that were made according to prescribed specifications.

In "kang ding or ju ding," a meat-cooking vessel, or "ding," was lifted by holding its two loop handles. "Kang ding" was most widely practised in the State of Qin, where a famous muscle man named Wuhuo reportedly lifted a vessel weighing 500 kilograms. Professional "kang ding / ju ding" activities
began to appear in the Han Dynasty (206 BC -AD 220), along with other forms of weightlifting such as pulling up a tree and lifting a deer.

Stone objects weighing 100, 125 and 150 kilograms came into use in the Ming (1368-1644) and Qing (1644 -1911) dynasties. As stone objects were easy to make and popularize, weightlifting using stone locks and stone bars became a traditional sport among the populace.

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Kungfu Show: The Legend of Kungfu

The average performer is only 17 years old; they are young martial arts talents from all over China. They imitate certain animals in fierce fighting, including frogs, tigers and snakes, and reveal the ancient art of shadow boxing. The show also promises a number of eye-popping stunts, like
smashing iron tablets over heads, and hitting people with thick wooden sticks. "

The Legend of Kungfu” was previewed in July 2004 and premiered on December 3, 2004. Up to now, the show has accomplished more than 2000 performances in the Beijing Red Theatre. It is still popular, boasting a 98%-full house every evening. Many visitors thought it was the unsurpassed show they
had seen in China. Mohamed Jaidah, a visitor from Qatar, came to see the show 3 nights running, and thought it was simply "a stunning experience."

In 2005, the show was inaugurated into ‘the National Instructional Index for Commercial Cultural Products of Performing Arts and Exhibitions of the Year’ by the Ministry of Culture of China. The Legend of Kungfu had its first North America tour from August 2005 to January 2006. During that
time, it played 150 performances in Vancouver, Toronto, Reno and other North American cities and won enormous audience admiration.

In 2007, the show reached two new international markets. In July, the company performed in Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia. A tour of Japan followed in August, including Sapporo, Sendai, Osaka and Fukuoka. A second, five-city tour of Japan is planned for the spring of 2008.

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Can anyone offer any advice on what sort of job opportunities would be available for me in Beijing.
I guess the most obvious is teaching english, but I do not have a University degree so does that
limit me in that respect ?
I do want to go and live.work in Bejing with my chinese wife however I really am at a loss as to
what sort of work I would be able to get that pays well. What sort of "good" opportunites are
there for mandarin speaking europeans ?
Any advice would be great.


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I am heading back to the US for a couple weeks worth of work/meetings, etc and wanted to ship some
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rotting away without the books in China ).
The last time I looked into doing this (December of '07) I was disappointed to see that the USPS
no longer did the MBag, or any surface mail, overseas, and only offered airmail.

Has anyone found another method to be workable? I am talking about ~200 lbs of books, 3 large
boxes. Though this could be paired down (and would definitely be if I have to do some variant of
airmail). Got at least another 5-7 years here (minus 6 month time served ) and the thought of
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I think the USPS has a flat rate box for $38 bucks (priority mailer). No weight limit. Seen people
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Your airline will charge a fortune for overweight checked luggage: the standard is something like
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But most airlines also offer an alternate, usually called something like "unaccompanied baggage,"
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Aloysius -

The Yale Chinese CH130 website provides us kindly with the audio recordings of David and Helen in
China and Listening & Speaking Chinese. The first 15 (of the total 20) L&S recordings come with
transcripts and are downloadable from the website.

This morning I very quickly wrote out Lesson 20, but there could be some small mistakes especially
towards the end where I lost concentration and wasn't too qingchu about one or two things (oh and
I was too lazy to IME all the de's, a bad habit - not cross-checking the IME in general btw. :>).
近年来不少去过中国的人都会为五光十色的服装而惊叹。过去的二十年来，�
��国经济的改革开放也促进了人们思想和文化观念的开放。从中国人的穿着��
�扮上，我们可以清楚地看到中国人生活中所发生的巨大变化。今天中国不仅
是世界上最大的服装出口国，而且也是服装的最大消费国。在改革开放以前�
��也就是八十年代以前，中国的服装一直是式样单一花色单调。居常颜的颜��
�都是深色的或者暗色的，如蓝的，绿的，灰的，黑的，等等。不管男女老少
人人都穿同样颜色合同颜式样的衣服，没有个性，没有各自的特地。这种单�
��单调的服装反映了当时落后的经济状况。人民穿衣服不是为了装饰不是为��
�好看，而这是为了遮蔽身体和防御寒冷。对老百姓来说，很少有人买得起贵
重的衣服。即使有钱政府也不鼓励人们穿新奇的衣服。今天不同了，
美容服饰成了人们生活中很重要的一部分。很都人尤其是年轻人和一切白领�
��作人员，每个月的收入很大一部分都花在衣服上。人们不再每天只穿统一��
�衣服或统一式样的衣服。他们学会了打扮自己，让自己跟别人不一样。而且
不但年轻人爱美连老年人也越来越追求美了。老年人过去连做梦也不感想花�
��绿绿的衣服。现在都勇敢的穿戴了现象。美丽漂亮的服装是这些老年人感��
�年轻了跟富有朝气了。中国的服装款式在不断地变化。服装设计师么也在不
断把新的样式核心的色彩推向市场，以满足人们的需求。从某种意义上说中�
��多彩的不装市场，最生动地展现了一个变化中的中国和变化中的中国人。
I was wondering does anybody have 16-19? And what about D&H; did anyone ever bother?
Still need to look at D&H really, I have no idea if it's any good.

Ta in advance anyway good people.



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Excellent resources, will download all these and work through! It took me a little white to
navigate.

Sorry, can't help with your query. I've never seen this textbook but it seems very popular. I've
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Aloysius -

Yale's Listening & Speaking's #19 - 赴宴

你好郭红红。诶呀雅克，你昨天晚上干什么去了？我们不是说好在一起复习�
��课了吗。到处找你找不到，大家都以为你失踪了呢。天啊，我这么把复习��
�课的事忘了，对不起郭红红。我昨天晚上去参加了一个结婚宴会特别热闹。
你还有心思去参加宴会啊？下星期这就大考了。没办法好朋友邀请不能拒绝�
��。那你参加的是谁的结婚宴会？是我的球友老张的。老张？
多老了？什么才结婚呢？大家都叫他老张，其实他并不老，才这有二十七岁�
��他已经看了两年的恋爱，昨天正好是八月八号。据说是个吉利的日子。一��
�儿不错。八八八发发发，发就是发财的意思。怎么样宴会上的人多吗？多极
了，新郎和新粮双方的很多亲戚朋友。多出席了宴会。游戏什么活动呢？主�
��人先让新郎新娘介绍恋爱经过。他们是自由恋爱的，没有通过别人的介绍��
�不过他们的故事还是挺浪漫的。还有什么人讲话?
好几个人都讲了话，因为我肚子早饿了,没认真听他们到底受了谢(?)什么。好
像都在重复说恭喜恭喜,早得贵子，白头到老之类的话。那你一定吃了不少好
东西吧。真的我第一次看见真么丰盛的酒席，山珍海味，应有尽有。你没有�
��坏肚子吧？
绝对没有，不过我喝酒喝多了一点儿，因为大家呼唱（？）敬酒，尤其看见�
��是个会说中国话的老外。更是（？）劝我多喝幸亏我酒量大没有喝醉。别��
�了！我看你现在还有一点儿醉呢
.开玩笑吧！我要是醉了，还能在这儿给你说话吗？

Post scriptum request for the good people - please enlighten me on the meaning of
"哪怕只有碗来粗细罢".










monto -

近年来不少去过中国的人都会为五光十色的服装而惊叹。过去的二十年来，�
��国经济的改革开放也促进了人们思想和文化观念的开放。从中国人的穿着��
�扮上，我们可以清楚地看到中国人生活中所发生的巨大变化。今天中国不仅
是世界上最大的服装出口国，而且也是服装的最大消费国。在改革开放以前�
��也就是八十年代以前，中国的服装一直是式样单一花色单调。居常颜的颜��
�都是深色的或者暗色的，如蓝的，绿的，灰的，黑的，等等。不管男女老少
人人都穿同样颜色和同颜式样的衣服，没有个性，没有各自的特点。这种单�
��单调的服装反映了当时落后的经济状况。人们穿衣服不是为了装饰，不是��
�了好看，而是为了遮蔽身体和防御寒冷。对老百姓来说，很少有人买得起贵
重的衣服。即使有钱政府也不鼓励人们穿新奇的衣服。今天不同了，
美容服饰成了人们生活中很重要的一部分。很多人尤其是年轻人和一些白领�
��作人员，每个月的收入很大一部分都花在衣服上。人们不再每天只穿同一��
�衣服或统一式样的衣服。他们学会了打扮自己，让自己跟别人不一样。而且
不但年轻人爱美，连老年人也越来越追求美了。老年人过去连做梦也不敢想�
��花绿绿的衣服，现在都勇敢地穿戴了现象。美丽漂亮的服装使这些老年人��
�觉年轻了，更富有朝气了。中国的服装款式在不断地变化。服装设计师们也
在不断把新的样式和新的色彩推向市场，以满足人们的需求。从某种意义上�
��中国多彩的服装市场，最生动地展现了一个变化中的中国和变化中的中国��
�。

The characters in red look odd there, but I don't know what they were supposed to be. The ones in
blue are the corrections I made according to grammar or common sense. Hope it be some help.










Aloysius -

#18 中国人的三大件
过去二十多年来，中国发生了巨大的变化。而中国人生活中的三大件的演变�
��对能代表在中国所发生的变化。什么是三大件呢？简单说来三大件就是只��
�常生活中三件很有用但也很贵重的东西。大约从七十年代初期就有了三大件
这个名词。当时中国还处在文化大革命中。那时候中国的经济情况很糟糕，�
��百姓的生活水平很低，多年来政府自力更生把中国的大门关起来。不跟西��
�国家做生意，结果好几十年中国的生财上不去，人民的生活得不到提高，常
时居民的收入很低，中国农民的生活更苦。很多地方一个人一天挣不到一分�
��。那时候中国生活中三大件就是自行车，手表和缝纫机。因为很少有家庭��
�以买得起这三大件。那时没一个大件都在一百块钱左右，算是很贵重的用品
了。一个刚参加工作的工人每个月的工资在二十多元钱，全面的工资总共不�
��二百多元钱，出去，吃饭，穿衣的钱每月很难省着(?)几块钱，所以要想买��
�大件。即使是平时很节俭也得需要好几年的时间。很多年轻人的梦想，就是
在结婚以前能够买上自行车，手表，缝纫机这三大件。到了一九七六年中国�
��领袖毛泽东去世，两年以后中国开始上世界敞开了大门。在国内政府也鼓��
�每个人想办法多挣钱。是中国的经济有了很快地发展。人民的生活水平也提
高了。到了八十年代中后期老三大件已经过时。这时的新三大件是彩电，冰�
��和洗衣机。新三大件的出
钱说明老百姓收入高了，生活改善了。到了九十年代中一些有钱的大款们又�
��了超级三大件，私房，轿车和计算机。虽然旧的三大件还没完全过时，但��
�的超级三大件一点点成为新一代中国人的梦想。谁知道了，也许在将来中国
的超级三大件也会成为过去。那时的人们一定会有更高级的三大件。

For those interested here's #18, bear in mind that this hasn't been (well) proof-read.










roddy -

过去二十多年来，中国发生了巨大的变化。而中国人生活中的三大件的演变�
��能代表在中国所发生的变化。什么是三大件呢？简单说来三大件就是指日��
�生活中三件很有用但也很贵重的东西。大约从七十年代初期就有了三大件这
个名词。当时中国还处在文化大革命中。那时候中国的经济情况很糟糕，老�
��姓的生活水平很低，多年来政府自力更生把中国的大门关起来。不跟西方��
�家做生意，结果好几十年中国的生产上不去，人民的生活得不到提高，城市
居民的收入很低，中国农民的生活更苦。很多地方一个人一天挣不到一分钱�
��那时候中国人生活中三大件就是自行车，手表和缝纫机。因为很少有家庭��
�以买得起这三大件。那时每一个大件都在一百块钱左右，算是很贵重的用品
了。一个刚参加工作的工人每个月的工资才二十多元钱，全年的工资总共不�
��二百多元钱，出去，吃饭，穿衣的钱每月很难省下几块钱，所以要想买三��
�件。即使是平时很节俭也得需要好几年的时间。很多年轻人的梦想，就是在
结婚以前能够买上自行车，手表，缝纫机这三大件。到了一九七六年中国的�
��袖毛泽东去世，两年以后中国开始向世界敞开了大门。在国内政府也鼓励��
�个人想办法多挣钱。使中国的经济有了很快的发展。人民的生活水平也提高
了。到了八十年代中后期老三大件已经过时。这时的新三大件是彩电，冰箱�
��洗衣机。新三大件的出现说明老百姓收入高了，生活改善了。到了九十年��
�中期一些有钱的大款们又有了超级三大件，私房，轿车和计算机。虽然旧的
三大件还没完全过时，但新的超级三大件已渐渐成为新一代中国人的梦想。�
��知道了，也许在将来中国的超级三大件也会成为过去。那时的人们一定会��
�了更高级的三大件。










Aloysius -

I fear a bunch of mistakes in #17 买东西
我们的生活离不开买东西，不管是吃的用都得需要（一件一件的买会来?）。
可是并不是每个人都会买东西。有的人天生就会买东西，买的东西又便宜，�
��量又好。有些人天生就不会买东西，花的（?）钱不少可是买会来的东西却�
��常不令人满意。所以很多人说买东西也是一门学文，是大有讲究的。在美��
�人们常常依靠广告买东西。每个大型货商店,每周都会印发大量的广告。商��
�也有很多推销产品的做法。比如降价销售，特价销售，买一送一，等等。这
些广告一般都夹在当地的报纸中。还有的商家把广告寄到居民的家里。很都�
��百姓先看看广告上价钱，然后决定到那个商店去买东西。所以在美国买东��
�，广告的作用是很大的。广告做得好，东西就卖得快。不错广告的商店恐怕
很难和别人竞争。另外美国的各种节假日也特别多。每个月份都有不同的节�
��。又官方认定的节日又民间的节日，直接节假日都为商家们提供难得的推��
�商品的机会（?）。商家也会根据不同的节日，在广告上推销不同的商品。��
�中国广告没有在美国那么重要。不少人这相信自己的经验（?），而（?）没�
��告是骗人的东西。在中国大城市的商业街上，更多的是
小型商店。有的卖男装，有的卖女装，一些常见的门饰还有鞋店，帽店，时�
��店，童装店，玩具店，文具店，音像店，书店，工艺品店，等等。可以说��
�什么商品，就有什么商店，每个商品的品牌也各种各样。顾客在买东西的时
候常常靠眼睛和手去判断一件东西的质量。所以中国有句倡言（？）叫货比�
��家。意思就是要又看几家商店又比较比较。然后在决定买样东西。很多会��
�东西的人常常是出了一个商店又进另一个商店需要花不少时间。所以要买到
一件自己很喜欢的东西，比用（!?）不是一间（?）很容易的事。会买东西的�
��往往是那些有耐心的人，他们把买东西当成一种乐趣，卖到东西当然好。��
�不到东西也不会太遗憾。Those of you able to pick out the 已渐渐，使 and 指‘s
impress me. Most of the corrections make sense with hindsight, but really only with hindsight.
What about “直接节假日”, it sounds correct but the meaning seems nonsensical.










roddy -

Apologies for not highlighting in red. 直接节假日 was 这些节假日. If you take a look at
the mistakes you've made you may be able to spot consistencies you can work on.

我们的生活离不开买东西，不管是吃的用的都得需要一件一件的买会来。可�
��并不是每个人都会买东西。有的人天生就会买东西，买的东西又便宜，质��
�又好。有些人天生就不会买东西，花的钱
不少可是买会来的东西却常常不令人满意。所以很多人说买东西也是一门学�
��，是大有讲究的。在美国人们常常依靠广告买东西。每个大型百货商店,每�
��都会印发大
量的广告。商家也有很多推销产品的做法。比如降价销售，特价销售，买一�
��一，等等。这些广告一般都夹在当地的报纸中。还有的商家把广告寄到居��
�的家里。很
多老百姓先看看广告上价钱，然后决定到那个商店去买东西。所以在美国买�
��西，广告的作用是很大的。广告做得好，东西就卖得快。不错广告的商店��
�怕很难和别
人竞争。另外美国的各种节假日也特别多。每个月份都有不同的节日。有官�
��认定的节日又民间的节日，这些节假日都为商家们提供了难得的推销商品��
�机会。商家也会根据不同的节日，在广告上推销不同的商品。在中国广告没
有在美国那么重要。不少人只相信自己的经验，而认为
广告是骗人的东西。在中国大城市的商业街上，更多的是
小型商店。有的卖男装，有的卖女装，一些常见的门市还有鞋店，帽店，时�
��店，童装店，玩具店，文具店，音像店，书店，工艺品店，等等。可以说��
�什么商品，
就有什么商店，每个商品的品牌也各种各样。顾客在买东西的时候常常靠眼�
��和手去判断一件东西的质量。所以中国有句常言叫货比三家。意思就是要��
�看几家商店多比较比较。然后在决定买一样东西。很多会买东西的人常常是
出了一个商店又进另一个商店需要花不少时间。所以要买到一件自己很喜欢�
��东西，并不是一件很容易的事。会买东西的人往往是那些有耐心的人，他��
�把买东西当成一种乐趣，买到东西当然好。买不到东西也不会太遗憾。










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赴宴

男：你好，郭红红。
女：哎呀，雅克！你昨天晚上干什么去了？我们不是说好在一起复习功课了�
��？到处找你找不到，大家都以为你失踪了呢。
男：天啊，我这么把复习功课的事忘了！对不起，郭红红。我昨天晚上去参�
��了一个结婚宴会，特别热闹。
女：你还有心思去参加宴会啊？下星期就要大考了。
男：没办法，好朋友邀请不能拒绝啊。
女：那你参加的是谁的结婚宴会？
男：是我的球友，老张的。
女：老张？ 多老了？怎么才结婚呢？
男：大家都叫他老张。其实他并不老，才只有二十七岁。他已经谈了两年的�
��爱，昨天正好是八月八号。据说是个吉利的日子。
女：一点儿不错。八八八，发发发。发，就是发财的意思。怎么样，宴会上�
��人多吗？
男：多极了。新郎和新娘双方的很多亲戚朋友都出席了宴会。
女：有些什么活动呢？
男：主持人先让新郎新娘介绍恋爱经过。他们是自由恋爱的，没有通过别人�
��介绍。不过他们的故事还是挺浪漫的。
女：还有什么人讲话?
男：好几个人都讲了话，因为我肚子早饿了，没认真听他们到底说了些什么�
��好像都在重复说恭喜恭喜、早得贵子、白头到老之类的话。
女：那你一定吃了不少好东西吧？
男：真的。我第一次看见这么丰盛的酒席，山珍海味，应有尽有。
女：你没有吃坏肚子吧？
男：绝对没有。不过我喝酒喝多了一点儿。因为大家互相敬酒，尤其看见我�
��个会说中国话的老外，更是劝我多喝。幸亏我酒量大，没有喝醉。
女：别吹了！我看你现在还有一点儿醉呢。
男：开玩笑吧！我要是醉了，还能在这儿跟你说话吗？




Quote:

Post scriptum request for the good people - please enlighten me on the meaning of
"哪怕只有碗来粗细罢".

Some characters might be wrong there, but still can guess it is to desribe the diameter of a
cylinder or column or something shaped like that, meanig the diameter is about that of a rice bowl.










roddy -

The only place I remember seeing 碗来粗细 is in 矛盾‘s 杨树礼赞.

Quote:

这是虽在北方的风雪的压迫下却保持着倔强挺立的一种树！哪怕只有碗来粗�
��罢，它却努力向上发展，高到丈许，二丈，参天耸立，不折不挠，对抗着��
�北风。

Like monto I took it to mean 'about as wide (thick) as a bowl.












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Andy-Ru -

Hi everyone!! A few days ago, I saw a guy on the train with a tattoo of 獅子座 and was
wondering what this meant. Does it refer to the constellation Leo?

Thanks



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Yes. 獅子座 = Leo. It's totally of Western.












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zhwj -

崔少明 was one of the founding contributors to Yazhou Zhoukan, which he left to become the
managing editor of Next Magazine when in started in 1990.

I can't find any references to him in English, but that might be because I'm not searching with
the right terms - how would his name most likely be written?



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zhwj -

And I finally found it myself - Tsui Sio-ming (he has a blog on Blogspot which is how I finally
stumbled across it).

Doesn't look like he uses an English given name.












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present simple vs. present perfect - bit of a fuss
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在德国太阳能已被广泛应用。
In Germany solar energy is been widely used.

Thats my take on the above sentence, but I am not a native speaker nor hardly an expert. However,
I was under the impression that it could only be read as "has been widely used" if the 已 were
replaced by 过. Does "已" denote the present perfect?



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Quest -

已经 adverb. already
被...应用 verb. passive. utilized










skylee -

You cannot replace 已 with 經 in the sentence you quoted. You can however replaced 已 with
已經. They mean the same.

已 and 已經 mean that something has already happened.










James Garrison -

Okay, 已经 means the present perfect. I guess since Chinese isn't as strict as English I could
also interpret 已经 as the past simple? 过, however, is always the present perfect, right? How
do 已经 and 过 differ in use?

Argh. I wish grammar had a face so I could slap it, hahaha.










skylee -

Take a look ->

已/已經



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Already: 已經 [yi3jing1]↓;
已去，已來 already gone, come;
會已散meeting already closed;
已久 already a long time;
已亡 already dead;
已冠 over twenty years of age (“already capped”).

過



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Used to express a completed action (pr. ’[guo1]): 讀過 have read about it;
聽說過 have heard of it;
看見過 have seen it;
吃過了 have had one's meal;
打過招呼 have said hello to s.o.;
遞過暗號 have given s.o. a secret signal.

Look at it this way: 已/已經 is an adverb, it is used like "already" in English, and is put
before the verb. 過 is like a suffix to turn a verb to describe a past action, and is put after
the verb.










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Quote:

Argh. I wish grammar had a face so I could slap it, hahaha.

Absolutely!



Quote:

Okay, 已经 means the present perfect. I guess since Chinese isn't as strict as English I could
also interpret 已经 as the past simple? 过, however, is always the present perfect, right? How
do 已经 and 过 differ in use?

I think that terms like "present perfect" and "past simple" apply very well to English, to many
other European languages, and to a few other languages; however, I think these categories are
extremely awkward in reference to Chinese and will cause confusion. There are many different
Chinese structures than can correspond to what we in English call "present perfect" or "past
simple," because Chinese makes different distinctions than we do in English. Neither language is
more strict than the other, they are just strict about different things.

As for 已经 basically meaning "already," I believe this is correct; however, there are
occasional uses where it merely seems to suggest completeness or change and where we would not use
"already" in English. Here is an example of the latter usage:
清圣祖虽是少年天子、但天资聪慧、机智过人、平素努力学习历代统治经略�
��已经逐渐成熟。Kangxi (The Qing Emperor Shengzu), although he was a young emperor, was
naturally intelligent and exceptionally resourceful. He usually worked hard in studying the
governing strategies of the past dynasties and gradually matured.












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aimee08 -

Hi, does anyone of you know where can I find a list with the same characters that are pronounced
in different way?

I mean like the 觉 of
juéde - 觉的
or
shuì jiào - 睡觉



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skylee -

You mean something like this? -> http://www.ccss.edu.hk/playground/22...%A4@%C4%FD.pdf

It's in traditional Chinese btw (HK website).










helenlee -

In Chinese we call them duo yin zi(pinyin) 多音字, I have found some on the web and copy them
here. Hope it will help you. If you want to find more, you can paste "多音字 " on "goole web
search" and you will find many websites about it.
This is one of the web http://xh.5156edu.com/showzip18317.html
Then 108 多音字 on one of the web:
1、单：单（shàn，姓）老师说，单（chán匈奴族首领）于只会骑马，不会骑��
�（dān）车。
2、折：这两批货物都打折（zhé）出售，严重折（shé）本，他再也经不起这�
��折（zhē）腾 了。
3、喝：武松大喝（hè）一声：“快拿酒来！我要喝（hē）十二碗。”博得众
食客一阵喝（hè） 彩。
4、着：你这着（zhāo名词）真绝，让他干着（zháo动词）急，又无法着（zhuó
）手应付，心里老是悬着（zhe）。
5、蕃：吐蕃（bō藏族的前身）族在青藏高原生活、蕃（fán茂盛、繁多）衍��
�几千年。
6、量：有闲心思量（liáng）她，没度量（liàng）宽容她。野外测量（liáng）
要量（liàng）力而行。
7、沓：他把纷至沓（tà）来的想法及时写在一沓（dá）纸上，从不见他有疲
沓（ta）之色。
8、烊：商店晚上也要开门，打烊（yàng晚上关门）过早不好，糖烊（yáng溶��
�）了都卖不动了。
9、载：据史书记载（zǎi），王昭君多才多艺，每逢三年五载（zǎi）汉匈首�
��聚会，她都要载（zài）歌载（zài）舞。
10、曝：陈涛参加体育锻炼缺乏毅力、一曝（pù）十寒的事情在校会上被曝��
�bào）光，他感到十分羞愧。
11、宁：尽管他生活一直没宁（níng）静过，但他宁（nìng）死不屈，也不息�
��宁（níng）人。
12、和：天气暖和（huo），小和（hé）在家和（huó动词）泥抹墙；他讲原则�
��，是非面前从不和（huò）稀泥，也不随声附和（hè动词）别人，更不会在�
��将桌上高喊：“我和（hú）了。”
13、省：湖北副省（shěng）长李大强如能早些省（xǐng）悟，就不致于丢官弃
职、气得不省（xǐng）人事了。
14、拗：这首诗写得太拗（ào）口了，但他执拗（niù）不改，气得我把笔杆�
��拗（ǎo）断了。
15、臭：臭气熏天的臭（chòu）是指气味难闻，无声无臭的臭（xiù）是泛指��
�般气味。
16、度：度（dù姓）老师宽宏大度（dù名词），一向度（duó动词）德量力，�
��不以己度（duó动词）人。
17、哄：他那像哄（hǒng）小孩似的话，引得人们哄（hōng）堂大笑，大家听�
��一哄（hòng）而散。
18、丧：他穿着丧（sāng）服，为丧（sāng）葬费发愁，神情沮丧（sàng）、��
�头丧（sàng）气。
19、差：他每次出差（chāi）差（chà）不多都要出点差（chā）错。
20、扎：鱼拼命挣扎（zhá），鱼刺扎（zhā）破了手，他随意包扎（zā）一下
。
21、埋：他自己懒散，却总是埋（mán）怨别人埋（mái）头工作。
22、盛：盛（shèng）老师盛（shèng）情邀我去她家做客，并帮我盛（chéng）��
�。
23、伧：这个人衣着寒伧（chen），语言伧（cāng）俗。
24、创：勇于创（chuàng）造的人难免会遭受创（chuāng）伤。
25、伯：我是她的大伯（bó），不是她的大伯（bǎi）子。
26、疟：发疟（yāo）子就是患了疟（nǜe）疾。
27、看：看（kān）守大门的保安也很喜欢看（kàn）小说。
28、行：银行（háng）发行（xíng）股票，报纸刊登行（háng） 情。
29、艾：他在耆艾（ài）之年得了艾（ài）滋病，整天自怨自艾（yì）。
30、把：你把（bǎ）水缸把（bà）摔坏了，以后使用没把（bǎ）柄了。
31、传:《鸿门宴》是汉代传（zhuàn）记而不是唐代传（chuán）奇。
32、荷：荷（hé）花旁边站着一位荷（hè）枪实弹的战士。
33、涨：我说她涨（zhǎng）了工资，她就涨（zhàng）红着脸摇头否认。
34、奇：数学中奇（jī）数是最奇（qí）妙的。
35、炮：能用打红的炮（pào）筒炮（bāo）羊肉和炮（páo）制药材吗？
36、给：请把这封信交给（gěi）团长，告诉他，前线的供给（jǐ）一定要有�
��障。
37、冠：他得了冠（guàn）军后就有点冠（guān）冕堂皇了。
38、干：穿着干（gān）净的衣服干（gàn）脏活，真有点不协调。
39、巷：矿下的巷（hàng）道与北京四合院的小巷（xiàng）有点相似。
40、薄：薄（bò）荷油味不薄（báo），很受欢迎，但要薄（bó）利多销。
41、拓：拓片、拓本的“拓”读 tà ，开拓、拓荒的“拓”读 tuò 。
42、恶：这条恶（è）狗真可恶（wù），满身臭味，让人闻了就恶（ě）心。
43、便：局长大腹便便（pián），行动不便（biàn）。
44、宿：小明在宿（sù）舍说了一宿（xiǚ）有关星宿（xiǜ）的常识。
45、号：受了批评，那几名小号（hào）手都号（háo）啕大哭起来。
46、藏：西藏（zàng）的布达拉宫是收藏（cáng）大藏（zàng）经的宝藏（zàng
）。
47、轧：轧（zhá）钢车间的工人很团结，没有相互倾轧（yà）的现象。
48、卡：这辆藏匿毒品的卡（kǎ）车在过关卡（qiǎ）时被截住了。
49、调：出现矛盾要先调（diào）查，然后调（tiáo）解。
50、模：这两件瓷器模（mú）样很相似，像是由一个模（mó）型做出来的。
51、没：驾车违章，证件被交警没（mò）收了，他仍像没（méi）事一样。
52、舍：我真舍（shě）不得离开住了这么多年的宿舍（shè）。
53、殷：老林家境殷（yīn）实，那清一色殷（yān）红的实木家具令人赞叹不
已。
54、还：下课后我还（hái）要去图书馆还（huán）书。
55、系：你得系（jì）上红领巾去学校联系（xì）少先队员来参加活动。
56、假：假（jiǎ）如儿童节学校不放假（jià），我们怎么办？
57、降：我们有办法使从空中降（jiàng）落的敌人投降（xiáng）。
58、脯：胸脯（pú）、果脯（fǔ）不是同一个读音。
59、间：他们两人之间（jiān）的友谊从来没有间（jiàn）断过。
60、石：两石（dàn）石（shí）子不够装一卡车。
61、劲：球场上遇到劲（jìng）敌，倒使他干劲（jìn）更足了。
62、茄：我不喜欢抽雪茄（jiā）烟，但我喜欢吃番茄（qié）。
63、刨：我刨（bào推刮）平木头，再去刨（páo挖掘）花生。
64、弹：这种弹（dàn）弓弹（tán）力很强。
65、颤：听到这个噩耗，小刘颤（zhàn）栗，小陈颤（chàn）抖。
66、扒：他扒（bā）下皮鞋，就去追扒（pá）手。
67、散：我收集的材料散（sàn）失了，散（sǎn）文没法写了。
68、数：两岁能数（shǔ）数（shù）的小孩已数（shuò）见不鲜了。
69、参：人参（shēn）苗长得参（cēn）差不齐，还让人参（cān）观吗。
70、会：今天召开的会（kuài）计工作会（huì）议一会（huì）儿就要结束了�
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71、簸：他用簸（bò）箕簸（bǒ）米。
72、吓：敌人的恐吓（hè）吓（xià）不倒他。
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74、耙：你用梨耙（bà）耙（bà）地，我用钉耙（pá）耙（pá）草。
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76、好：好（hào）逸恶劳、好（hào）为人师的做法都不好（hǎo）。
77、咳：咳（haī）！你怎么又咳（ké）起来了？
78、处：教务处（chù）正在处（chǔ）理这个问题。
79、囤：大囤（dùn）、小囤（dùn），都囤（tún）满了粮食。
80、缝：这台缝（féng）纫机的台板有裂缝（fèng）。
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82、扇：他拿着扇（shàn）子却扇（shān）不来风。
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84、屏：他屏（bǐng）气凝神躲在屏（píng）风后面。
85、几：这几（jǐ）张茶几（jī）几（jī）乎都要散架了。
86、卷：考卷（juàn）被风卷（juǎn）起，飘落到了地上。
87、乐：教我们音乐（y&＃7909；è）的老师姓乐（y&＃7909；è），他乐（lè）�
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98．空：有空（kòng）闲就好好读书，尽量少说空（kōng）话。
99．泊：小船漂泊（bó）在湖泊（pō）里。
100．朝：我朝（zhāo）气蓬勃朝（cháo）前走。
101．膀：膀（páng）胱炎会使人膀（pāng）肿吗？
102．校：上校（xiào）到校（jiào）场找人校(jiào)对材料。
103．强：小强（qiáng）很倔强（jiàng），做事别勉强（qiǎng）他。
104．塞（sài）外并不闭塞（sè），塞（sāi）子塞（sāi）不住漏洞。
105．辟：随意诬陷人搞封建复辟（bì）可不行，得辟（pì）谣。
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107．都：大都（dū名词）市的人口都（dōu副词）很多。
108．匙：汤匙（chí）、钥匙（shi）都放在桌子上。










heifeng -

here we started a thread: http://www. /showthread.php?t=17287
and here

and there are probably a ton of books on them too. Even online you can just search 多音字 Have
fun....










heifeng -

wow, you guys answer fast...I thought I was gonna be able to post first on one of my favorite
topics ...hehe










aimee08 -

oh thank you so much!!!!
I didn't know they are called 多音字， so I couldn't search if there were already open thread,
sorry.










skylee -

Here is a list in simplified Chinese with 243 (if I count right) 多音字 in doc format -
常用多音字规范表 ->
http://www.lbx777.com/ywfj/ywcs/wz/images/cydyz01.doc

I note that 着 and 著 are two separate entries on this list. hmmm ...










aimee08 -

thanks skylee, that's perfect










roddy -

Attaching two files.

The .doc file is a simple list of the 108 多音字 in the link above suitable for importing into
your preferred flashcard program (although how that flashcard program handles 多音字 is another
matter).

The .txt is a Plecodict friendly list of all words in the increasingly laggard HSK database which
contain any one of those 多音字. Bear in mind that some 多音字 may only have one
pronunciation within the HSK lists - all of those words will still be included. Eg 单 results in
简单 etc appearing, although the shàn version doesn't.

I would probably have been wiser to use the longer list of 243 to generate this, but I happened to
be looking at the shorter one of 108 when I started thinking about this. If anyone wants to come
up with or find a clean list of the 243 that I can just plug into the database I'll be able to
generate a more complete list of associated words. What also might be useful is a list of
多音字 within the scope of the HSK.

The Pleco format, in case anyone wants to convert it to something else, is just

// LIST NAME
CharsPin1yin1
CharsPin1yin1










roddy -

Attaching:
A list of all characters in the 现代汉语常用多音字词例, one entry per pronunciation.
About 300 characters, just under 700 pronunciations. There's a 次常用多音字词例 also,
about one third of the length. Will post that if / when I do it. For reference the
现代汉语常用字表 (ie not just 多音字) is about 2,500 characters, the 次常用 1,000.

It's called a 词例 as there's a third column, with lists of words for each pronunciation, or an
explanation, which I haven't typed in, and don't plan to if importing into Plecodict has decent
results (which is why I have one entry per pronunciation, rather than multiple pronunciations per
line)

The list does some odd stuff, eg omits huǐ for 会, includes a neutral tone 点 because of 打点
but not for similar words, etc.












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CheukMo -

Then it must be an American martial arts mis-translation or a Cantonese thing. Ma bu or ma bo are
used as horse stance. Here are a couple of examples:
"Yi Ji Kim Yeung Ma" - “Character Two Goat Gripping (Basic) Stance”
"Saam Gok Ma" - “Triangular Advancing/Retreating Stance”

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that link is invalid for me, even when going through a proxy. Does the page provide characters for
these stance names, and if so are you able to post them here?










zozzen -

imron, Google China possibly disables cache function.

Here is the original text, in Word format:
http://www.fighting-talk.org.uk/uplo...0Peterson).doc










imron -



Quote:

Google China possibly disables cache function.

Like I said, it wasn't working even with a proxy, but the file you provided opens fine, although
unfortunately it doesn't contain characters.

A quick search on a few Wing Chun sites however reveals that it is the same 馬, so I guess it's
probably a style-by-style difference, or maybe a north/south difference.












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I can't make sense of this sentence about Beijing Opera actors in the essay at:
http://clavisinica.com/CVP/opera.html

他们身上的精湛技艺和敬业精神都一去不复返了

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muyongshi -

What it's saying is that the current generation will never be able to compare with the last
generation. The way the last generation did it, there make-up and such (I'm paraphrasing) has gone
and will not come back.

It's kind of like saying it can never be as good as the original.

Hope that makes sense! (does it?)










wrbt -

Yes that makes sense. Tough idiom to see from the literal, thanks a lot for the help I appreciate
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